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But that is exactly why most of them exclude US buyers. First of all, there are numerous ICOs with token valuations above and beyond anything that would be reasonable for the type of future products and services being proposed, especially when the value of the capital being raised is essentially all up front with no strings attached. When mentioning other currencies, keep the discussion civil. BitcoinMagazine - Bitcoin Magazine. Frazem11 - Mohamed E. Only requests for donations to large, recognized charities are allowed, and only if there is good reason to believe that the person accepting bitcoins on behalf of the charity is trustworthy. NicolasDorier - Nicolas Dorier.

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Twitter requests for donations to large, recognized charities are allowed, and only if there is good reason to believe search the twitter accepting bitcoins on behalf of the charity search trustworthy. I felt bad for the person who would end up in eleventh place, so now eleven people will be selected. But that is exactly why most of them exclude US buyers. This means that you are responsible for twitter own madbitcoins, and don't have to trust any entity madbitcoins keep it safe for you. Will search be an investigation, yes I can't remember madbitcoins. Bitcoin is not a business - the goal is not to maximize the ROI of investors.

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This ensures that there will be no discrimination over the origin or history of your coins, lessening the worry of potential blacklisting by exchanges or vendors. Who owns and runs Cointelegraph? Are you aware of any of the other cryptonote coins that were not launched by the same people?

Other than the fact that they told me Bytecoin was their coin and they also asked me to write about ducknote, I don't have any hard evidence of that. There is one, but I am scared for his safety if I mention his name.

I'm sure CT didn't want him mentioning it to me. And while I don't know if the rumors of Russian mafia are real or not, I do know that they are from Russia and that rumor existed for both Bytecoin and CoinTelegraph.

The dude that revealed it to me lives in Russia I believe. Really appreciate your honesty and whatever it took to make that public interview. They have a media deal http: Either way they're definitely in bed with each other. Well the relationship is a little weird, they list CoinMarketCap as "part of the CoinTelegraph Media Group", so it's not entirely clear how tightly coupled they are.

There's that conspicuous "2 years" reference that always pops up in these stories. That was my takeaway at the very end. Anybody else have any thoughts on this?

I've also invited Ian DeMartino to field questions here if anybody has any. Currently it sounds like Bytecoin was trying to get writers to say that Monero was hardcore mined by botnets at the very beginning of its life. Did anyone at CT do anything other than pushing the botnet theory to try and discredit Monero or paint it in a negative light? Also, other than the botnet theory what if anything did they tell you to write about either Monero or their own coins that your own research showed to be unsupported or untrue?

I always refused to write anything that was untrue, even if it was under a different name. I stopped writing anything they "handed" me in september or october of I think, maybe august. So I have no idea where it evolved from there. They did a lot of petty things though, asking me to put Monero on the bottom of a list of CN coins, even though it wasn't a first to worst kind of list, they just wanted it to be mentioned last because they thought it would embarrass you guys. Other than the botnets, what if anything did they ask you to write about though you refused that was untrue?

I don't think really anything. It was less about writing untrue things and more about just mentioning Bytecoin a lot and not mentioning Monero. I could be wrong, but I don't think they asked me to do any other hit pieces on Monero, just the one. Did you suspect some of that stuff wasn't true?

I forgot about that. Not sure if they ever got me to regurgitate that story or not. But, during my time writing about CN, I found absolutely no evidence of a secret Bytecoin forum and launch. In fact, when they told me they knew the Bytecoin devs, I asked for access to that deepweb forum, but they ignored me completely. So, if I'm understanding correctly, they explicitly asked you to include the claimed backstory in your articles. What's important is that not doing anything about potential scams until they become clear to be actual scams after the fact is a mistake.

First of all, there are numerous ICOs with token valuations above and beyond anything that would be reasonable for the type of future products and services being proposed, especially when the value of the capital being raised is essentially all up front with no strings attached. The incentive structures are just all wrong here. The people putting forth these ICOs can even have great intentions, and that won't matter if the incentives aren't right.

Most of these ICO CEOs will, by nature of the incentives involved, ultimately walk away before they've created anything that matches the value of the funds that they were supposed to be stewards of, given the belief here that there should be no mechanism to stop them other than maybe harming their public reputations. Time and time again, these incentives have acted in such a way that these people conveniently find a way to engineer their exits to minimize the harm to their public image, while still not actually taking the project to anywhere near what was promised.

Furthermore, the people speculating on this stuff don't even seem to think that any of that matters, as long as they can sell their token to the next greater fool for a higher price than what they paid.

By stating it this way, you seem to be wanting to just brush aside the reality that scams have always been a real thing in this space due to the incentives involved, and you're wanting to assume that ICOs have some sort of magical properties that couldn't possibly make them any different or worse than what we've already seen here. Enabling people to be paid fully up front for future efforts, in a system where they aren't even supposed to be held liable to complete these efforts, isn't enabling some all hallowed new source of innovation -- it's enabling scammers to run rampant.

These people can just take the tokens and run. And if you remove the public facing component and try to do this process anonymously so that the CEOs themselves can't even be taken to court because no one knows who they are, that'd be even more ridiculous, but at least more people might not be so stupid as to send their funds off to some anonymous person, unless there were some other mechanism to keep that person on task.

Keep in mind that with services on the dark web, for example, at least there's a concrete product or service being purchased, and some semblance of a review system and escrow that is involved, and even then you can still be scammed if they just decide they've profited enough personally and it's time to exit.

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